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+<p>I just stumbled on this - <a href="http://forum.world.st/OpenCobalt-Croquet-client-for-Opensim-td622809.html">http://forum.world.st/OpenCobalt-Croquet-client-for-Opensim-td622809.html</a></p>
+<div>
+<p>&nbsp;</p>
+<p>I'll reproduce the relevant part here -</p>
+<pre>Rich White wrote:
+&gt; Thinking out loud regarding the feasible of a OpenCobalt /Croquet
+&gt; client/peer for Opensim ?
+&gt;
+&gt; * Connect to Opensim Server -  much like Cobalt connects to Jabber now
+&gt; * Portal window opens to server - much like opening a stored file or
+&gt; connecting to another peer
+&gt;
+&gt; Convergence of the technologies would seem to bring the best of both
+&gt; "worlds" (peer/server/content) into one ecosystem.
+&gt;
+&gt; A few dangling pointers:
+&gt; http://opensimulator.org/wiki/OpenSim_Archives
+&gt; http://opensimulator.org/wiki/User_Documentation
+&gt;
+&gt;
+&gt; Ideas? Is a convergence possible? ... This though may be WAY off but
+&gt; wanted to bring it up and see what others thought.
+&gt;
+&gt; Cheers,
+&gt; Rich
+&gt; ===
+&gt;
+&gt;
+... [show rest of quote]
+Actually, I've been looking at merging SL and Croquet off and on for
+several years, and there's far more interesting ways of merging the two
+that can serve as a pattern for using Croquet in many situations besides
+formal virtual worlds.
+The simplest is to simply use the SL media plugin or the equivalents
+that work with 3rd party viewers, and create a "telepresence" between
+worlds. I.E. a simple view-only portal or 2D equivalent using VNC, with
+or without interaction:
+ http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Saijanai_Kuhn/Plugins_discussion#Media_Rendering_Plugin
+This particular use can be extended to provide a service that could be
+added to SL instant messaging, so that you could create a temporary
+world and invite a buncha people to join you in a private 3D chat
+island, for collaboration or simply to "hangout" without having the
+overhead of maintaining a genuine OpenSim or SL sim.
+Obviously, you can extend the concept to be an option for ANY kind of 2D
+collaboration system, from Jabber to IRC to Google Wave to whatever.
+Imagine having a "create Croquet island/invite people" option as
+standard in any IRC client.
+Getting back to typical virtual worlds usage, the idea of a viewer
+plugin that leverages all of Squeak/Croquet's functionality to enhance
+some other viewer shouldn't be sneered at. Right now, the SL viewer (for
+example) barely provides access to raw mouse coordinates for UV tracking
+on a texture (the current media plugin scenario), but there's no reason
+why any arbitrary event or internet packet couldn't be intercepted and
+shunted off to squeak for pre/post processing.
+http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Saijanai_Kuhn/Plugins_discussion#Proposed_Extension_to_Media_Plugin
+I'm currently working on a proof of concept of this last by intercepting
+arbitrary packets to/from the SL server/viewer using the Gridproxy
+utility and/or injecting or pre/post processing such packets. When you
+combine that with the ability to intercept mouse UV coordinates on a
+texture in SL and render into said texture from Squeak/Croquet directly,
+you get all sorts of possibilities. Add localhost/seaside into mix and
+you've got a very powerful experimental system that can project control
+surfaces via html on a prim, or in the SL built-in browser, or via
+VNC-like interactions directly to a prim on the local SL viewer.  
+Combine that with broadcasting to streaming server, and you have a
+virtual worlds whiteboard that can project into SL ala the metanomics
+virtual lecture hall.
+http://www.metanomics.net/
+Start interacting with internal viewer events, and you can leverage
+physics/graphics creation/etc from the Squeak/Croquet side, and merge it
+directly into a local SL instance for custom puppeteering with the
+possiblilty of doing a P2P collaboration mechanima where individual
+avatars can be controlled by a single machine using a script and/or
+timeline control interface. The resulting avatar activity can be
+"filmed" for mechanima, or could be uploaded to a central server for
+rebroadcast to a virtual world audience (or both).
+http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Saijanai_Kuhn/Plugins_discussion#Puppeteering_Plugin
+Instead of using 2D projections, you could also leverage the 3D portal
+system of Croquet to inject 3D cenes from Croquet into a given virtual
+world viewer, and either maintain a backk-end P2P connection between
+participants, or shoot the composite scene to a central server in some
+fashion using the existing virtual world protocols.
+The possibilities are endless for synergy between Croquet and other
+virtual worlds, IMHO.
+Lawson (Saijani Kuhn in Second Life)
+</pre>
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	4	<body bgcolor="black" text="white" alink="red" link="blue" vlink="purple">
	5	<p>I just stumbled on this - <a href="http://forum.world.st/OpenCobalt-Croquet-client-for-Opensim-td622809.html">http://forum.world.st/OpenCobalt-Croquet-client-for-Opensim-td622809.html</a></p>
	6	<div>
	7	<p> </p>
	8	<p>I'll reproduce the relevant part here -</p>
	9	<pre>Rich White wrote:
	10
	11	> Thinking out loud regarding the feasible of a OpenCobalt /Croquet
	12	> client/peer for Opensim ?
	13	>
	14	> * Connect to Opensim Server - much like Cobalt connects to Jabber now
	15	> * Portal window opens to server - much like opening a stored file or
	16	> connecting to another peer
	17	>
	18	> Convergence of the technologies would seem to bring the best of both
	19	> "worlds" (peer/server/content) into one ecosystem.
	20	>
	21	> A few dangling pointers:
	22	> http://opensimulator.org/wiki/OpenSim_Archives
	23	> http://opensimulator.org/wiki/User_Documentation
	24	>
	25	>
	26	> Ideas? Is a convergence possible? ... This though may be WAY off but
	27	> wanted to bring it up and see what others thought.
	28	>
	29	> Cheers,
	30	> Rich
	31	> ===
	32	>
	33	>
	34	... [show rest of quote]
	35
	36	Actually, I've been looking at merging SL and Croquet off and on for
	37	several years, and there's far more interesting ways of merging the two
	38	that can serve as a pattern for using Croquet in many situations besides
	39	formal virtual worlds.
	40
	41	The simplest is to simply use the SL media plugin or the equivalents
	42	that work with 3rd party viewers, and create a "telepresence" between
	43	worlds. I.E. a simple view-only portal or 2D equivalent using VNC, with
	44	or without interaction:
	45
	46	http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Saijanai_Kuhn/Plugins_discussion#Media_Rendering_Plugin
	47
	48	This particular use can be extended to provide a service that could be
	49	added to SL instant messaging, so that you could create a temporary
	50	world and invite a buncha people to join you in a private 3D chat
	51	island, for collaboration or simply to "hangout" without having the
	52	overhead of maintaining a genuine OpenSim or SL sim.
	53
	54	Obviously, you can extend the concept to be an option for ANY kind of 2D
	55	collaboration system, from Jabber to IRC to Google Wave to whatever.
	56	Imagine having a "create Croquet island/invite people" option as
	57	standard in any IRC client.
	58
	59	Getting back to typical virtual worlds usage, the idea of a viewer
	60	plugin that leverages all of Squeak/Croquet's functionality to enhance
	61	some other viewer shouldn't be sneered at. Right now, the SL viewer (for
	62	example) barely provides access to raw mouse coordinates for UV tracking
	63	on a texture (the current media plugin scenario), but there's no reason
	64	why any arbitrary event or internet packet couldn't be intercepted and
	65	shunted off to squeak for pre/post processing.
	66
	67	http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Saijanai_Kuhn/Plugins_discussion#Proposed_Extension_to_Media_Plugin
	68
	69
	70	I'm currently working on a proof of concept of this last by intercepting
	71	arbitrary packets to/from the SL server/viewer using the Gridproxy
	72	utility and/or injecting or pre/post processing such packets. When you
	73	combine that with the ability to intercept mouse UV coordinates on a
	74	texture in SL and render into said texture from Squeak/Croquet directly,
	75	you get all sorts of possibilities. Add localhost/seaside into mix and
	76	you've got a very powerful experimental system that can project control
	77	surfaces via html on a prim, or in the SL built-in browser, or via
	78	VNC-like interactions directly to a prim on the local SL viewer.
	79	Combine that with broadcasting to streaming server, and you have a
	80	virtual worlds whiteboard that can project into SL ala the metanomics
	81	virtual lecture hall.
	82
	83	http://www.metanomics.net/
	84
	85
	86	Start interacting with internal viewer events, and you can leverage
	87	physics/graphics creation/etc from the Squeak/Croquet side, and merge it
	88	directly into a local SL instance for custom puppeteering with the
	89	possiblilty of doing a P2P collaboration mechanima where individual
	90	avatars can be controlled by a single machine using a script and/or
	91	timeline control interface. The resulting avatar activity can be
	92	"filmed" for mechanima, or could be uploaded to a central server for
	93	rebroadcast to a virtual world audience (or both).
	94
	95	http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Saijanai_Kuhn/Plugins_discussion#Puppeteering_Plugin
	96
	97
	98	Instead of using 2D projections, you could also leverage the 3D portal
	99	system of Croquet to inject 3D cenes from Croquet into a given virtual
	100	world viewer, and either maintain a backk-end P2P connection between
	101	participants, or shoot the composite scene to a central server in some
	102	fashion using the existing virtual world protocols.
	103
	104	The possibilities are endless for synergy between Croquet and other
	105	virtual worlds, IMHO.
	106
	107
	108	Lawson (Saijani Kuhn in Second Life)
	109
	110
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